# Reddit raw failure threads for 3-8x signups over Product Hunt > Posting honest weekly "what broke this week" updates on Reddit and Indie Hackers drives 3-8x more real early users than polished Product Hunt launches. - Canonical HTML: https://growth.iangoh.com/growth-ideas/reddit-raw-failure-threads-for-3-8x-signups-over-product-hunt/ - Source: [reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildinpublic/comments/1qiex40/reddit_indie_hackers_threads_beat_product_hunt/) - GrowthDex source hub: [reddit.com](/sources/reddit-com-reddit-com/) - Last checked: March 23, 2026 - Rarity: epic - Budget: free - Channels: Communities, Reddit - Stages: 0-100 - Key metric: 8x more ## Why this can grow People trust vulnerability over polish. Sharing brutal truths about product failures and fixes triggers reciprocal storytelling in comments, building community and trust fast. PH feels like a beauty contest; Reddit feels like a real conversation. Users acquired through genuine conversation have significantly higher retention than hype-acquired users because they self-select for actual problem-solution fit. The feedback loop also improves the product faster than any other channel. ## Ian's take From scaling consumer platforms across MENA and Southeast Asia, my default is to distrust growth work that only looks good in a slide. I would treat this as earning the right to be in the room, not dropping a campaign into a room. In community-led growth, the first job is to notice what people already care about, then bring a useful proof, tool, teardown, or question that makes the conversation better. I would run it small enough to learn quickly, then only scale the parts that real users repeat, save, reply to, or buy from. For this tactic, I would watch 8x more before putting more time or budget behind it. ## Action plan 1. Define one narrow startup segment where reddit raw failure threads for 3-8x signups over product hunt can create a measurable lift. 2. Turn the tactic into one offer, page, campaign, or workflow for the Communities and Reddit channel. 3. Use the evidence from reddit.com to set the first version of the message, format, and audience. 4. Launch a small test for 7 to 14 days with one success metric: 8x more. 5. Review the result, keep the winning message, remove weak variants, and turn the learning into a repeatable growth playbook. ## Source-backed example mbtonev (r/buildinpublic, March 2026) — posted honest weekly updates about failures and small wins on Reddit and relevant subreddits; PH launch generated ~40 signups (mostly lurkers, dead after day 1), while raw Reddit threads generated 200+ signups in under a week with zero ads and actual conversations that converted into feedback and first paying users. FishingSuitable2475 (meetergo) confirmed the same pattern: a raw Reddit thread about struggling with a specific UX problem led to their most loyal early cohort, outperforming a polished PH launch. ## Adjacent tactics in the same lane - [Build-in-public vulnerability threads](/growth-ideas/build-in-public-vulnerability-threads/) - same source, 2 shared channels, 1 shared stage - [Competitor mention hijacking](/growth-ideas/competitor-mention-hijacking/) - same source, 2 shared channels, 1 shared stage - [Hobby-first community immersion before building](/growth-ideas/hobby-first-community-immersion-before-building/) - same source, 2 shared channels, 1 shared stage - [Reddit profile-as-funnel optimization](/growth-ideas/reddit-profile-as-funnel-optimization/) - same source, 2 shared channels, 1 shared stage ## Read GrowthDex essays Browse the plain-English essay index at [GrowthDex Blog](/blog/). ## Advisory If you want help turning this into a working growth system, Ian Goh offers advisory at https://iangoh.com/advisory.