# ThePod podcast guest research before recording pipeline > Build the guest research and outreach system before recording the show, because the pipeline can begin before the first episode ships. - Canonical HTML: https://growth.iangoh.com/growth-ideas/thepod-podcast-guest-research-before-recording-pipeline/ - Source: [thepod.fm](https://thepod.fm/case-studies) - GrowthDex source hub: [ThePod.fm: B2B podcast case studies](/sources/thepod-fm-b2b-podcast-case-studies-thepod-fm/) - Last checked: 2026-06-09T07:16:06.000Z - Rarity: rare - Budget: medium - Channels: Podcast, Outbound, Pipeline - Stages: pre-recording pipeline, guest research, podcast outbound, B2B relationships, pipeline before publish - Key metric: ThePod.fm reports $1,160,000 in pipeline deal size in 30 days before the first episode was recorded. ## Why this can grow Founders often think the podcast starts when the episode goes live. ThePod's case-study page points to a different sequence: the outreach, guest selection, and pre-recording relationship work can create pipeline before publishing. That is important for B2B because the guest is not only content supply. The guest may be a buyer, partner, investor, expert, or connector. If the research is sloppy, the show becomes a content chore. If the research is sharp, every invite tests a market thesis. Ian's operator take: the best creator-led growth loops start by choosing the people who already shape demand. ## Ian's take From scaling consumer platforms across MENA and Southeast Asia, my default is to distrust growth work that only looks good in a slide. My bias is to treat this as a small market test first. Make the audience narrow, make the promise concrete, and let the first real response decide whether it deserves more work. I would run it small enough to learn quickly, then only scale the parts that real users repeat, save, reply to, or buy from. For this tactic, I would watch one clear growth signal before putting more time or budget behind it. ## Action plan 1. Define one narrow startup segment where thepod podcast guest research before recording pipeline can create a measurable lift. 2. Turn the tactic into one offer, page, campaign, or workflow for the Podcast and Outbound channel. 3. Use the evidence from thepod.fm to set the first version of the message, format, and audience. 4. Launch a small test for 7 to 14 days with one success metric: one measurable growth signal. 5. Review the result, keep the winning message, remove weak variants, and turn the learning into a repeatable growth playbook. ## Source-backed example ThePod.fm says one client used a podcast-led guest strategy to generate $1,160,000 in pipeline deal size in 30 days before recording a single episode. ## Adjacent tactics in the same lane - [Podcast-as-outreach ABM](/growth-ideas/podcast-as-outreach-abm/) - same source - [Frontlines podcast invitation as ABM door opener](/growth-ideas/frontlines-podcast-invitation-as-abm-door-opener/) - 1 shared channel, 1 shared stage ## Read GrowthDex essays Browse the plain-English essay index at [GrowthDex Blog](/blog/). ## Related GrowthDex essays - [The podcast appearance should open a real door](/blog/the-podcast-appearance-should-open-a-real-door/) - Podcast growth, founder-led distribution, B2B pipeline ## Advisory If you want help turning this into a working growth system, Ian Goh offers advisory at https://iangoh.com/advisory.